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IDS #221 - Gotta Whole Lotta Glop!

September 10, 2024 β€’ Mike and Darin

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>> Darin: I had breakfast with Michael Flannery over the weekend. I went to the Waffle house, and I met him and longtime fan of the show, Jim Timmerman.

>> Mike: Yeah, Jim Timmerman's a pretty cool dude.

>> Darin: He's a good guy. And we were having breakfast, and Michael Flannery said, hey, guys, I created a new word. You want to hear it?

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Plagiarism. It was funnier at the Waffle house.

>> Mike: M. Oh, my God, Brian. There's a message in my alphabets. It says, ooh, peter, those are Cheerios.

>> Dave: Welcome to irritable dad syndrome. Please stand. Please stand. Please stand. Please stand. Please stand by. While we're working on technical difficulties, here are your hosts, Mike and Darren.

>> Darin: Hi, I'm Darren.

>> Mike: I'm Mike.

>> Darin: Welcome to irritable dad syndrome, Cincinnati's comedy podcast. This is episode 221.

>> Mike: Yeah, we are excited that you're here or wherever you are. Yeah, we're just happy that you're listening to this.

>> Darin: We are. Because last week we had Rick Miller from southern culture on the skids on the show, and we had a doozy of a technical problem in that Mike and I sounded great.

>> Mike: Oh, yeah.

>> Darin: But we didn't record half of the interview with, mister Miller. Yeah, we recorded our part, but he. And this is what kills me was that he was coming through the headphones.

>> Darin: Right. So I was just. I assumed that we were recording Rick, but we found out about, oh, half hour. So into the interview.

>> Mike: Are we going right into my performance review?

>> Darin: Well, we're gonna talk about the. If you listen to last week's episode with Rick Miller, you'll notice it's about a half hour long now. It's a good interview.

>> Mike: It is a good interview.

>> Darin: He was really, really insightful and gave a lot of great stories about the early days of southern culture on the skids. And, we got to. With his permission, we got to play a lot of their music. And I loved the stories that he told.

>> Mike: Yeah, he told some excellent. The. Some of the best stories were at the initial part of the interview.

>> Darin: Well, the greatest story that he told, we totally, we didn't get that.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: So.

>> Mike: Okay, let's go in the interval. Dad, time machine.

>> Darin: What happened?

>> Mike: Okay, so let's step back. We use a laptop to record this. We also have a mixer. We've got our cameras going, we've got lights and all these things set up. And here's what happens. We will set everything up with our volumes and all that.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And then change nothing and come back the next week. And sometimes everything's fine, sometimes it's catty wampus.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: so we have our checks that we go through to make sure that everything's okay. So Darren was concerned. Every time we've had a guest, there's been some kind of technical issue. And most of our technical issues came from the fact that we use a particular program that we no longer use.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: We always twitch our podcast live. And they came with a new option to collaborate. It was new back in. It's not no longer new to bring the feed directly in. And I thought that it solved all of our technical problems. So, Darren, for weeks, man, I hope there's no technical problems. I really. And I'm like, Darren, I know, I understand. I know this is your favorite band. I know this is the equivalent of us getting the edge to agree to an interview and how I would be. Darren was losing sleep. I was, I was doing everything I could. I even told Bess, I was like, I don't know how to make Darren feel more comfortable. Have you checked everything? Yes, I checked everything. I even, I left work early that day. You know, I got all my stuff, I went in early, got my stuff done, came here, got everything set. And everything looked good. Everything seemed fine.

>> Darin: Yeah, well, it took like an hour because I, it's like we were recording at 07:00 on a Friday and I got here at six and you were already down here banging the hammer trying to get it. And we called our friend Jim Timmerman.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And he was our guest.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Right. He logged in and we checked to make sure that, you know, we saw his camera and he could see us and then he couldn't hear us and then we couldn't hear him.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And here's the thing. Like every time we've had a guest, it's been like Craig Augustine or Jay Ryan or, you know, and I love these guys and I love our guests.

>> Mike: But they were, it gets a little difficult sometimes to deal with these technical issues because you have the potential for the technical issues to be here as well as there. We've had a couple of interviews where the technical issues on the other end, most notably when the audio would cut back and forth, like if we laughed at something they said.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: And that was a setting in Zoom.

>> Darin: Like when Heywood Banks was on. Yes.

>> Mike: And that's a setting. We have no control over their settings. And boy, if you want an experiment and how frustrating things can be, try to correct someone else's technical problem on a video call. So anyway, everything was fine. He connected right away.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: We got him in. We could hear everything m. Everything was fine from his viewpoint. Everything was going wonderfully. We could hear him. Everything was great. We started the interview. Now I'm going to throw a pitch out here. If you haven't subscribed to our patreon, now's the perfect time because you can see live about 35 to 40 minutes in. I realize that we haven't been recording his voice at all. What? What the hell was that?

>> Darin: Hey, what happened?

>> Mike: And I described it to Darren. My eyes go wide. I look over at you and I'm just. You. I'm just.

>> Darin: I'm just talking.

>> Mike: You have a smidgen of concern in your eyes. I text to you. I can't remember exactly what I said.

>> Darin: I can find it. But I basically alerted, saving this text.

>> Mike: Forever alerted Darren to the issue. And if you watch the video when that happens, and you'll see the color drain from Darren's face. And I do want to say I was impressed with how you absorbed what was probably the worst possible news you could get at that moment and continue forward. Yeah, exactly. I would like to. I'm gonna give you a hand. Yeah.

>> Darin: the exact quote that Mike sent me was, this is at, 07:47 p.m. we had already been talking to Rick for about 35 or 40 minutes. Sorry, Mandy. It hasn't been recording him until a couple of minutes ago. I checked in and had to make an adjustment and noticed I couldn't hear him. It's good now. It'll be a partial episode. To which I thought, what the, it's good now, though. And so I replied. And here. And Rick is telling this great story.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: And I'm trying to listen to Rick.

>> Darin: Because, you know, internally, your world is a good interview, has a follow up question.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Right. And I said, how much did we miss? And you said, 40 minutes.

>> Mike: The look of my reasonable assumption.

>> Darin: Okay, okay.

>> Mike: Well.

>> Darin: And I wasn't gonna just stop.

>> Darin: I was gonna hate Rick. We had a technical problem. Can we back up a half hour? Yeah.

>> Mike: No, no, you can't do that. You can't. You cannot do that. Which is why I. You were so concerned about technical problems.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: Cause we can't do that.

>> Darin: No.

>> Mike: And then right at the end of the episode, which ended fine, Rick never knew anything. I guess he may if he started listening now, he knows.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: We've done this for over four years at this point.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: You told the first lie to me. I think you've ever told that I'm aware of. As soon as everything went down, you said, I'm not mad.

>> Darin: And I know that's a. I wasn't mad at you. I m was upset that it happened. Yeah, I know that. Cause this is also your podcast.

>> Mike: This is our.

>> Darin: This is your podcast. It's my podcast. It's our podcast.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: I know that you would never do anything intentionally to screw up our podcast.

>> Mike: No, no, no.

>> Darin: And I saw the look of fear in your eyes.

>> Mike: It was awful.

>> Darin: And I thought, Mike is really afraid that I'm going to beat the out of him.

>> Mike: I would cry because Mike's never feared.

>> Darin: Me, but he was really, really. And you just had that look on your face like the dog. You come home and the dog is torn up the entire carpet and the couch, and like, that look like, I didn't mean to do it. I know you didn't mean to do it.

>> Mike: Let me say that. If I had, and you're right, I did not mean to do it.

>> Darin: No, I know you did.

>> Mike: If I had. If I had tried to engineer the most thing I could do, that probably would have been it, right? Yeah. outside of just driving my car through your living room, I think even that would be less offensive.

>> Darin: But it's like, I know that, you know, I spent almost a year getting that interview, and I know that you, knew that, you know, I specifically went to their concert and was like, I rushed him.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: Before all the other fans. And I was talking to him and I said, hey, will you do the. And absolutely. Cause I had talked to their manager, and then I had emailed and corresponded with his drummer for a while, and none of those came to fruition. But finally just face to face with Rick, and then he agreed. And then it took a dozen or so emails to get him to hammer down a date. So I know you know all the stuff.

>> Mike: I know all that stuff.

>> Darin: And there's part of me who thought, I can hold this over Mike's head for years.

>> Mike: I told. I told you I didn't sleep that night because we had to go to glop the next morning. And I didn't. I didn't.

>> Darin: I didn't either.

>> Mike: And then we drove in.

>> Darin: I was wide awake at like four or five in the morning or something. But anyway, the interviews, it's over. The interview that we got, what we have.

>> Mike: It's good.

>> Darin: Is good.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: It's a really good interview. And if you listen to it, I don't think anybody on the outside looking in would say, sounds like about half of that thing is missing.

>> Mike: No, no, no. Because I've watched some of his other.

>> Darin: We didn't have to do this.

>> Mike: I've watched some of his other interviews, and they're like, 20 to 30 minutes. So people would be like, yeah, it's a standard interview.

>> Darin: And like I said, he gave us permission to use some of his music. And so I filled. I put a lot of his songs in there to, And I enjoyed the episode.

>> Mike: So besides the pain that it caused you.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: A large anguish and part of my.

>> Darin: Soul is missing now, a piece of.

>> Mike: It for me is. It really was an excellent 35 to 40 minutes of interview. 40 miles to Vegas.

>> Darin: There's a song that southern culture did, and it's on their album plastic seat sweat, and it's also on the bootlegger's choice where they re recorded it. It's called 40 miles to Vegas, and it's based on our true story. And, I'm gonna tell you the story now because it's gone into, as microfers, the ether. Yeah, it's gone. So when they were just starting, they were, really, really, really poor. They were scraping together two nickels to, you know, to eat because Mary used to be a waitress, and Rick used to work at a screen print place, and Dave was a census worker, and that's. Those were their day jobs. And we talked about their day jobs. But, you know, Mary, if there was a, couple eating at her restaurant, and they got in a fight and they would, like, leave, she would grab their leftovers and box them up and bring them home, and they would eat leftovers that people either just tossed away half of or whatever. So they had made this trade. They needed a vehicle. They made a trade for this. Was it a van or a truck? It was a van.

>> Mike: It was a van. Screwdriver.

>> Darin: Yeah. They made a trade for a van. And this van was a piece of crap. And it had one tire that was the wrong size. They couldn't drive more than 30 miles an hour without the thing about brake.

>> Mike: No brakes.

>> Darin: No brakes. When they. I don't know. I don't remember what they traded for it.

>> Mike: He had to start it with a screwdriver. The guy handed him a screwdriver.

>> Darin: What did they give this person for the van? Because they traded.

>> Mike: I don't remember.

>> Darin: Anyway, he gives them the title and a screwdriver, and Rick says, we don't need the screwdriver. We've got a toolbox right here. And he says, oh, no, you need the screwdriver to start it because they didn't have a key.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: So they're driving this piece of van, and they were getting ready to. They were going into Canada. And so they looked at the title, and then they realized the title on the car wasn't the same. In the same name of the guy who gave it to him.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: So now they're thinking, great, this is probably a stolen vehicle. So Rick calls his mom. His mom was dating a judge. and he was asking, should we call the police and report this before we try? And the judges, no. What? They're. They're totally not gonna let you into Canada. And he says, take your best shot. And so they crossed over into Canada without any, you know, didn't get stopped.

>> Mike: They did.

>> Darin: They did not get stopped. So that was the deal with that. But they're driving it, and they had a gig in Las Vegas, and it completely breaks down. So they had to call a tow truck. And the guy who shows up was high as on crack.

>> Mike: Was it crack? That's piles of crack. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Darin: High on crackhead. And Dave, the drummer and their roadie had to lay down in the back of the tow truck while Rick and Mary rode up front with this guy. his hands are twitching. His. His eyes are twitching. He's talking about how he had to peel this person off the sidewalk here, and he found that dead person there. And they're like, just slow down. You know, he opened up his smokes because his hands were shaking. That's. The guy was jittery. They were scared to death.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: But he told this amazing story. Rick told it way better than.

>> Mike: Oh, yeah.

>> Darin: Oh, you should have heard it. It was amazing.

>> Mike: Dream of it. Balls. And one eyed Jack, the tow trucker driver, was a high on track. He was talking about some breather that died. When his head started twitching. My mouth went dry. My man. My man had just a ticket. Real slow. We know her. And just to keep us on the road, I opened up his smokes. Cause his hands was a shake. 40 miles of Vegas.

>> Darin: And we all started praying.

>> Mike: Another fun aspect of the night's technical.

>> Darin: Difficulties talked about Bobcat Goldthwaite. Was Santo, one time. That was a great story. You should have heard that one.

>> Mike: Another fun, fact about that episode, if you watch the Patreon video that I haven't had the heart to put up yet. Is a friend of the show. Dan was visiting the same night, and through a series of technical faux pas, could not be, could not hear what he was saying we could only hear what we were saying. And he was on camera.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: And he didn't realize he was on camera the whole time. So for the entire hour and ten minute video, just sitting there. Just sitting there looking. I mean, I will give it to him. I was afraid he would start, like, picking his nose or something.

>> Darin: He was very well behaved.

>> Mike: Very well behaved. He was fine. I felt awful.

>> Darin: Oh. But it's like, I'm so worried that there's gonna be a problem with Rick. And you keep trying to make sure Dan can hear. Oh, let's make sure Dan can hear. God forbid, Dan miss out on.

>> Mike: Yeah, but I love Dan. Yeah, I love Dan. I love Dan.

>> Darin: Dad's a great guy.

>> Mike: Eventually did make it so that Dan could hear. Yeah. And he hears what everyone else heard. Yeah, he didn't do. So. He was here for the entire time and he only heard what's in the episode. He was a fail all the way around.

>> Darin: yeah, well, half the way around.

>> Mike: Yeah, half the way around.

>> Darin: Anyway, so, anyway, so I am going to, They're back on tour. Southern culture on the skids are back on tour. Go to southern culture on the skids. scots go to scotts.com. okay. Look up their tour dates. And I. You not. If they are within an hour or more, do whatever you gotta do and go see them live because they are phenomenal live. They put on such an amazing show. And after every show, they hang around and talk to all their fans, get to know them, say hi, get your picture taken with them. You will absolutely love them. There are fantastic people. And it was a thrill to have Rick on the show. I'm hoping we can get him to come back. I'm gonna ask him, definitely ask him to come back on the show.

>> Mike: He may, because he, when it started, he said he only had about 20 minutes or so, and then he ended up saying an hour and ten minutes.

>> Darin: Yeah, it was great. Yeah, he was. He was amazing. He was. He sounded amazing.

>> Mike: He did.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: so a couple things. How do you prevent a recurrence of Darren's nightmare?

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: So what I'm going to create for you, our show is, and I haven't done it yet, it will be in place before the next, guest is a checklist.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: And part of the checklist is audio testing.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: And I don't care who we have on the other side, they're gonna have to wait the five minutes that it takes us to verify that everything's going out and being recorded. Right. Because that's what did it was when I checked in on the stream and realized I couldn't hear it. And it took 30 seconds from that point to fix the problem. Yeah. And that's why I was kicking myself the entire time. That's the one thing.

>> Darin: Can you imagine if we missed the whole thing?

>> Mike: Well, I mean, if Dan were here. If Dan were not here, we would have.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Because I was working on trying to make it so he could hear. And I had fixed it, and I put it in my ear, and that's when I realized, yeah, we can hear every Dan and everything. We just can't hear the dude we're interviewing. Well, but what makes this. In my defense, we could hear. We could hear it like.

>> Darin: Yeah. Audio was coming into our headphones and.

>> Mike: All of our levels were. Looked like they were great. Everything looked like it was streaming. You had to go one level deeper.

>> Darin: Yep.

>> Mike: And, Okay, have we beat that horse to death yet?

>> Darin: No time like now to give Mike his podcast performance review.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: So below expectations.

>> Darin: So, Mike, I've got a few questions.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: As far as, let's say, providing content for the podcast, would you say you. A, I provide a lot of content. B I provide content. Sometimes circumental. I mostly let my co host provide content and just bounce off his ideas, whether they're stupid or not.

>> Mike: I would say the last one there.

>> Darin: Understanding technological aspects on recording the podcast, a very specific question. I know what I'm doing. B. I kind of know what I'm doing. C. I don't have a clue what I'm doing. It's like throwing darts and hoping something hits a bullseye.

>> Mike: I'm gonna say b.

>> Darin: Okay. B.

>> Mike: B. I'm gonna go with b.

>> Darin: B. I would.

>> Mike: C. You don't get the 221 episodes with someone.

>> Darin: It's a little harsh. Whoever wrote this is just a jerk. Editing the podcast. A. I do a great job. B. I do an okay job. C. Hey, Darren, can you please just edit this portion out of the podcast now?

>> Mike: I have editing skills. I do have editing skills.

>> Darin: You edited, like, the first 30 episodes.

>> Mike: I have moved over into the other piece of it.

>> Darin: Mike handles all of the videos that go out on our social platforms, our twitters, our exes, our pooblers, our, venmos, our uber, whatever the hell. Yeah.

>> Mike: Those require editing.

>> Darin: They do.

>> Mike: I did not realize that when I signed up for that. Oh, yeah, they do.

>> Darin: Writing content for the podcast. I am very good at writing words and things. B. I am not very good at writing words, things, and stuff. See, we have a writer.

>> Mike: I see.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Yeah. In my defense, some of our best episodes have had zero planning.

>> Darin: That's true.

>> Mike: Some of our best.

>> Darin: Absolutely true.

>> Mike: Some of our worst have had zero planning, too. It's almost like it's a 50 50 again.

>> Darin: I'm. I'm upset that it happened. I'm not upset with you because I don't know how to do any of the stuff that you do. I would not have gotten as far as we got. So, just for the record, for all you people listening, all y'all, I am not upset with Mike about last week. I am upset that it happened. I hope that Rick will come back on the show sometime because I love talking to him.

>> Mike: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. Thank you. And I am making efforts to ensure that that never happens again.

>> Darin: Gotcha.

>> Dave: You are listening to irritable dad syndrome, Cincinnati's comedy podcast.

>> Darin: There you go.

>> Mike: That's solid entertainment. After I didn't sleep that night, we got up early to go to glop glop glop, the yearly party at Bess's sister's house. There were a huge amount of people this year. I think I want to say almost 200, 250.

>> Darin: Wow, that's a lot of glopping.

>> Mike: A lot of glopping. Remember, we got up in the morning, drove about a five hour trip in.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: When we arrived was when the party was starting.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Okay. Y'all got this party started quickly. The party involves.

>> Darin: So you got to get out of the frying pan straight into the fire.

>> Mike: Yeah. The party involves, food, alcohol, all these different things, seeing people we haven't seen since the last glob fancher, was there.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: And had a great time. Charlie was having a blast. Andrew was having a blast. And there's a thing in glop called the final four. Number four.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: It's usually the last four people that are up still.

>> Darin: M. Do you have bets on this?

>> Mike: no, but see. Okay, so let me give you a little bit of glop history, just a smidge. It originally started as a family party. Okay. And there were a lot of older people in the family. So the beginning was always, like a reunion type deal.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: If you go to a family reunion, as the party goes on and the sun goes down, the bonfire starts, the older people start leaving, and the younger people are staying, and then it becomes a flat out party.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: And then there's always people that, like, either see the sun come up or whatever. People camp there. People sleep in various places in the house. There's a pond. There's. I mean, there's all kinds of gallivant and going around. Oh, galavant gallivanting over the years. Obviously, this party's been going on for 25 years. 25 or 26 years at this point. every year.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Me and Bess have missed one.

>> Darin: Oh, okay.

>> Mike: Yeah. Over time, some various things have popped up, and one of them is the final four. Who's in the final four? Who's the last people up? Charlie was one of the final four.

>> Darin: Oh, wow.

>> Mike: He didn't go to bed until 04:00.

>> Darin: A.M. oh, my goodness.

>> Mike: We found him in our room sleeping, sitting up. Best had to lay him down.

>> Darin: Sit in a chair, or sitting up with.

>> Mike: His back against the bed that he was supposed to be in. Andrew was in.

>> Darin: Gotcha.

>> Mike: there were two beds in the room we were in. He was on the floor for whatever reason. So, fun fact about, that next day is we had a five hour journey back, and then Charlie had basketball tryouts for thunderbirds. Flight.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: He wants to make, you know, flight. And we think he can. I was concerned about him staying up until four in the morning, then going through a five hour car ride. And then, like, literally, we pulled into the house, got the bags out, and then I drove him to the tryouts. And he goes out there, does his sizing, and then he's playing basketball like his heart out, and he's got. He's, like, covered in sweat.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: Did, very well. I do have a minor complaint about the tryouts.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: They have five coaches. There's a main coach, and there's four other coaches. They split the kids up into four quads in the gym.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Usually, the parents aren't allowed to watch for some reason. This year, the parents were there and allowed to watch, so I'm there. And then, charlie's coach from last year. We loved his coach from last year. They got all the way to, like, the. The champion. Was that called, like, the last games?

>> Darin: The final four.

>> Mike: Final games. Yeah. And they. We. I think they should have won, but, you know, anyway, he's there with me. Not with me sitting behind where I'm at, but I'm watching. And I notice that every time Charlie's doing something awesome, all five of the coaches seem to be looking at something else, and then they look over at where he's at, and it's not that he's screwing up.

>> Darin: Right?

>> Mike: It's just he's a playing normally, and then they'll all turn around that's when he steals the ball and does a drive.

>> Darin: Killer.

>> Mike: Gets a three pointer, something. And after about the second or third one of those, I turned back to his old coach and I said, you know, I'm not a sports guy, but it's. And I know he's my kid, but it seems to me that they are never watching Charlie when he's doing the really cool stuff. And I was hoping that he would say, no, no, no, they're seen at all. And he said, yeah, I'm noticing that, too. He just did an awesome drive, and he gave all the technical terms for whatever it was that Charlie did. I just know it was cool.

>> Darin: He jumped and tossed and.

>> Mike: He jumped and tossed the ball into the thing. Well. And did the thing.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And he said, yeah, they didn't. They totally didn't see that. That was amazing. And he's like, my kid has made three shots in the past ten minutes, or, sorry, past five minutes, and they haven't seen either one of them. They're just. They have their backs. Every time you see them, what the.

>> Darin: Hell are they doing?

>> Mike: They will see some. What? I don't know. They're coaches, and they know thousands of millions times more about basketball than I do.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: But what I gathered was they would say, all right, let's watch this kid. And then they're all watching that kid, and they're ignoring everything else that's going.

>> Darin: On around, so they focus on, one, and then they'll.

>> Mike: They won't see anything else that's going on. I think it would be better. There's four of them and a head coach, and their kids are into four quadrants. Why not have each kid, each coach, watch one of the quadrants?

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And then the head coach go between the four coaches? I think that would make more sense.

>> Darin: I think so.

>> Mike: But who am I?

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: So.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: Anyway, we're on pins and needles trying to see, you know, whether he made the select team this week or not. I would be, I. Obviously, I'm very proud of him.

>> Darin: Oh, yeah.

>> Mike: But you talk about, staying, up till four in the morning, five hour drive, going immediately onto basketball court.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: It's gonna be tough. you were talking about Charlie sleeping, sitting up.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Years ago, my buddy Larry Hanley, his daughter Madison was getting married to this guy Logan. And we've known Logan for a long time, and we all went to the wedding. And this is when Cameron was little. He's like, six, seven, something like that. And he's out there dancing his butt off the whole time. And eating as many of those. What are they called?

>> Mike: The, nerd gummies?

>> Darin: No, the, where you got the twirl. No, it's an hors d'oeuvre.

>> Mike: Yeah, that lady fingers. Or is it them fingers now? They fingers.

>> Darin: No, the. It's got. You got the meat, and then you got the tortilla. And it's all wrapped in this taco. It's sliced in. God, you're killing me. Help me out here.

>> Mike: A fajita.

>> Darin: No, it's wrapped, and then you slice it, and then, and then you see the twirly part, whatever.

>> Mike: With a tortilla in there. I know what you're talking about. I don't know.

>> Darin: Anyway, he got. He ate I don't know how many of those. Every time we turn around, he was going and getting another one and eating. He had the time of his life at this wedding. He was partying hard for a seven year.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: We get hm home, and, we're like, all right, boys, go straight upstairs, throw the pajamas on and brush, your teeth, and get into bed. And Libby and I stayed in the driveway for a minute to get a couple things out of the car. We walked into the kitchen, and Cameron is face down on the floor, sound asleep on the kitchen floor, face down.

>> Mike: Well, Andrew, you know, said something about Charlie, sleeping, sitting up. And I was like, okay, gandalf, I don't know how many times back, back when you were his age, you would sleep with your eyes wide open. It scared the out of me.

>> Darin: Oh, you told me about that.

>> Mike: He would fall asleep on the couch, and I would come down to get, you know, I'm getting ready to go to work, and there's this kid laying their eyes wide open, staring at me. And I, like, I wanted to put a bowling ball in your hand, like the palantir and just take a picture of you, you know? And then he, of course, came back and said, full of a took. So he's my kid.

>> Darin: another Cameron sleeping story. When I did my show, my comedy show with Michael Flannery at the American Sign museum.

>> Mike: Not in our yard.

>> Darin: No, no, not at that one. I had did the joke. I had done. I performed the joke. Me do joke. me tell funny.

>> Mike: You spoke funnies.

>> Darin: Me smoke, me tell joke about you, know, you have a drinking problem if you wake up in a laundry basket, right? So. And then there's the whole thing about that. We go home, and Cameron is asleep in a laundry basket, and Libby's like, honey, you've got to come up here. I thought something was wrong. One of the kids was missing. A wolf had gotten in the house.

>> Mike: You know, it's been known to happen. She was just like, you gotta see this.

>> Darin: Sound asleep in the laundry basket in that morning. We're like, buddy, why were you sleeping in the laundry basket? Well, Jacob was in my bed.

>> Mike: That's perfectly sound logic.

>> Darin: So the laundry basket basket. Yeah. Like, why didn't you get in his bed? Why didn't you go down on the couch? I don't know. He never thought about.

>> Mike: One would think the couch would appear in your mind before the laundry basket.

>> Darin: Yeah, but, yeah, he.

>> Mike: Then again, if I could fit in a laundry basket, I might sleep out.

>> Darin: I'd be sleeping in one.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Hey, what does Glop stand for? Back to glop?

>> Mike: It doesn't. We talked about, like, somebody asked at glop, does he, does it stand for anything? He's like, no, it's just glop.

>> Darin: Just glop.

>> Mike: It's the dish that he invented. Yeah, he called glop. And we just, I say we. He based this party, they, they them out based this party around that. Around that dish. Another story. I'm sorry, I've got. These are all just feeding right in. so Fancher lives like five minutes from glop.

>> Darin: Okay?

>> Mike: Minutes from glop. 15. Five plus ten.

>> Darin: We've mentioned Jim Fancher on this podcast before. Jim is a, Mike's, friend.

>> Mike: Of mine from like way.

>> Darin: Yeah, but he's like your, he's like your wife's brother in law.

>> Mike: He is married to bess's cousin, which he's married to my wife's cousin.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: He's my sister's brother's former roommate or whatever it is in the spaceballs twice removed. Yeah. So he. Purchased a guitar.

>> Mike: That was played by Paul Stanley of Rush. Okay.

>> Darin: Oh, no.

>> Mike: Four letters.

>> Darin: Glop.

>> Mike: Glop. Paul Stanley of Glop. of Kiss. I'm sorry, we're really confused people.

>> Darin: And Paul Stanley, as you know, wants to rock and roll all night and party every day.

>> Mike: Yes. So they did a thing. Kiss did a thing, back in 2016, where Paul Stanley would smash a guitar every night.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Okay. There was something you could buy some experience where you would get that guitar that he smashed.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And it would be autographed to you from Paul Stanley. So some of those concerts, no one bought that experience. So Jim saw them in Huntington, West Virginia. No one in Huntington bought the thing. Jim and multiple friends and their kids went to that kiss concert. Right? Saw, filmed. Paul. They filmed breaking his guitar.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: On their. On their phone.

>> Darin: On their phone.

>> Mike: So he had that. And, you know, as an opportunity to buy this, I helped convince him to buy it. Sure, it was some money, but m. It was like, that's his favorite band.

>> Darin: And money well spent.

>> Mike: I say he got extra perks with it. They took a picture of Paul Stanley holding it, after he autographed it to Jim.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: He smushed, at the night of the show, he smushed his makeup. I don't know if you kids know this, but kiss wore makeup on stage. His makeup is on the guitar.

>> Darin: It wasn't natural.

>> Mike: Jim let me touch the makeup on the guitar. So I've touched Paul Stanley's makeup.

>> Darin: M can I touch your finger?

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: Can I touch a finger? That's false.

>> Mike: I remember which finger it was. Hello. It's just the tip.

>> Darin: That's what she said. Okay, so, anyway, continue.

>> Mike: He also went to kisses final show. The final, final show in New York at Madison Square garden.

>> Darin: Yeah, they did two shows that.

>> Mike: The second one, the last one, and was lucky enough to get a golden ticket, a 24 karat gold ticket. Wow. Which was a gift that they were handing out. Fun fact, there were 10,000 odd people in. Whatever. They only made 5000 of these gold tickets. Okay. Somebody wasn't thinking that. Kiss fans from around the world may want this, right, as a gift. They were just passing them out. Jim just happened to get in the right line to get the ticket, just accidentally. And on the subway, there were people finding out that, not everyone got the tickets. So there are people in tears and all this. And then, Jim was just like, don't try to. His wife. Don't.

>> Darin: That's gonna be like, damn it. I didn't get a ticket.

>> Mike: I wanted.

>> Darin: I wanted. Oh, yeah, Doug gone.

>> Mike: It got that ticket, and he got the set list from the show in 2016. So here's his whole kiss memorabilia.

>> Darin: Shrine.

>> Mike: A shrine, as it were. Yeah. So I got to see that. I got to see that. Got pictures of it. okay, kids. Yeah, yeah. Remember last episode? So. No, no, no. The question is.

>> Darin: The point is.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: The point is, you got to see it.

>> Mike: I got to see it. I got to see it.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: But he pointed out, I don't know that I'll ever buy anything of kiss again because what. What. What am I gonna buy that's gonna top this?

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: and it caused me to think what could I get from you two that I would, that would stop me from buying everything I know. Yeah. And then, he asked me a question that I've actually thought about. He knew when Kiss's last show was. He knew what their last song was gonna be. So he asked me if you knew when you two, like, the final show. Yeah. Would. It's like, would they announce that cuz. Cuz rush had their final show and no one knew it was their final show? You know what I mean? There was, there was a last time that Rush played a lot of bands. This is the last time they play. Mm And then nobody knows about it. Right.

>> Darin: Well, they don't know it's gonna be.

>> Mike: Something they don't know. But in kisses, you know, they planned it, so would you to do something like that? And I was like, if they did, it would probably be in Dublin. It would probably be in Ireland, I imagine. And then he asked what song would they, would they play the final song? And I, without hesitation, 40. I just thought, it'll be 40. Whatever. Whenever their last concert is, their last song will be 40. And they will probably end it with that. And then people will sing it. The question will be, how long will the crowd sing it before a bunch of irish cops come in and say, okay, laddie, let's go.

>> Dave: This portion of our show is brought to you by lance crackers. Don't go around hungry. Grab some lance crackers today. Now back to you guys in the studio.

>> Darin: I went to see one of the greatest concerts I've seen in.

>> Mike: We haven't talked about this yet.

>> Darin: Oh my God, I went. You saw Samuel J. Hagar?

>> Mike: Yeah. Hagar. Hagar.

>> Darin: Holy mother of God.

>> Mike: That dude is pure rock and roll.

>> Darin: It was one of the greatest concerts I've ever seen.

>> Mike: The red rocker.

>> Darin: The red, well, you called him the red rocket last week. Yeah, yeah, the red rocker. And he was amazing. Absolutely amazing. When Eddie Van Halen died, there was a lot of talk about doing some type of tribute.

>> Darin: To Eddie.

>> Mike: Right. Yeah.

>> Darin: And this sparked this idea that Sammy had of, because, you know, normally when he does a show, he does about, I don't know, like 80, 75%, Sammy songs. Then he sprinkles in five, six or eight Van Halen songs.

>> Mike: I'm going to say something that's probably going to be unpopular, but I'll just say it right now is a Sammy song.

>> Darin: Oh, right now is an amazing song.

>> Mike: Yeah, it is. But it's, it's, it says Van Halen, but it's Sammy.

>> Darin: I know, but I mean, they all wrote it together.

>> Mike: He wrote that.

>> Darin: So that's not a bad thing.

>> Mike: It's not a bad thing. No, it's a good thing.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: I think it's a great song. But he wrote it.

>> Darin: So he comes out there, they open up with good enough off of 5150.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Hello baby. And then it never stopped. He just, he was just banging the whole place down the whole time. He brings in Joe Satriani.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Cuz if you're gonna do Eddie Van Halen.

>> Mike: Oh, Joey. Joey Sachs.

>> Darin: Joey Sachs. Yeah.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: You've got to do something. And alien, he's the surfing with the alien.

>> Mike: Alien, yeah.

>> Darin: Joe Satriani did so much justice to Eddie Van Halen's music.

>> Mike: Yeah. They're kind of cut from the same cloth.

>> Darin: They absolutely.

>> Mike: Him and yo wingi Malmstein.

>> Darin: Ingvay Malmsteen. Yeah, Malmstein.

>> Mike: Easy for you to say.

>> Darin: Joe was amazing and I considered it an honor to have seen Joe Satriani live.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And then Mike Anthony, dude, he got.

>> Mike: Such a raw deal with Van Halen that really did. It was, yeah, it's nice. I'm glad Sammy kind of took him under his wings.

>> Darin: Yeah. When they split up, Mike went with Sammy.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And Eddie and Alex went their other way.

>> Mike: It was like a divorce, like a band divorce. And Mike Anthony was one of the kids.

>> Darin: Exactly.

>> Mike: Which one you going with?

>> Darin: Sammy got custody of Mike. He did. He totally did. I remember that's like one of the only times where Sammy lost his cool.

>> Mike: Uh-huh.

>> Darin: Because he would kind of stay out of that whole thing. He wouldn't talk about the other guys, but he finally lost it when they were bad mouth and Mike and. Yeah, he's like, listen, you don't talk about Mike Anthony.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: You just don't. Because Mike Anthony, when they reunited with David Lee Roth, he was gonna tour with them. He said, they didn't even call me. You know, he was going to. Even though he loved Sammy, he still loved Eddie, he still loved Alex, he still loved Van Halen. He was still an OG member of Van. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

>> Mike: Anyway, with the Jack Daniels base.

>> Darin: With the Jack Daniels bass.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And it was just a phenomenal show.

>> Mike: Jason Bonham was, he's related to somebody.

>> Darin: He's related to John Bonham.

>> Mike: And he he did some things from the Zeppelin. He's a percussionist.

>> Darin: Yes. He plays the drums.

>> Mike: Okay. Yeah, he hits things.

>> Darin: He does hit. Does he ever. Yeah, he wasn't there. The John Bonham was John Bonham was not there. He was not there. Or Jason. Jason Bonham was not.

>> Mike: Neither of them were there.

>> Darin: Jason Bonham was not there. And the show starts, and, they go to the shadow of the drummer, and I'm thinking, did. Did Jason shave his head? I thought he had a beard. And he, usually wears a, you know, one of them toboggan hat.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And I'm like, that kind of looks like Melan camps drummer, but I never heard anything about Melan's drummer. Yeah, it was melancholy.

>> Mike: Cougar.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: John Cougar, Kenny Aaron off.

>> Darin: Jonathan cougar than James cougar.

>> Mike: Miller. JJ and Aaron off. Because he name was Aaron off. Center name.

>> Darin: sure.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: So Kenny Aaron off was playing drums, and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen.

>> Mike: Did they play mast Aquila? They did.

>> Darin: They did. Yeah.

>> Mike: Was any jackass throwing empty tequila bottles up front like I did? No.

>> Darin: The crowd was loving it, but they were very tame.

>> Mike: So where were you in the. I could. I see the pictures. I saw your pictures. It looked like you were in the center.

>> Darin: I was in the center. Back on the lawn. Yeah.

>> Mike: Center on the lawn. Okay.

>> Darin: Because, oh, my God. Tickets to see Sammy Hagar were, like, coming close to $200.

>> Mike: Yeah. He's.

>> Darin: And I love Sammy Hagar. Sammy's in the rock and roll hall of Fame.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: And I can't say, well, God, really, to see Sammy Hagar, I just couldn't afford it. My buddy Dan and I opted to stand on the lawn, and it was a great show. Inconceivable. I heard that one of your favorite bands is reunited and they're gonna tour oasis. Everyone's losing their mind.

>> Mike: Liam and Noel. Oh, it's gonna be huge. Massive.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And I love that they're already being about it all. Okay, I've said this before. I'm gonna say it again because now they're. They're trending again. In general, it's hard for me to like a band if I don't think that I would personally like the members.

>> Darin: I agree.

>> Mike: Right.

>> Darin: I totally agree.

>> Mike: But I have some exceptions to that rule. And Oasis, both of the brothers is an exception. I would actually go the opposite route if I met either Liam or Noel and they weren't a jerks to me. I would be like, what the hell? What are you doing? What is this?

>> Darin: What happened?

>> Mike: I love it when they talk. They talk the most, and it's so fun to read. And it was maybe a minute, less than a minute after I saw the official announcement because I got an email from Live nation. Here's your code if you go into the UK. Because I. When I saw you two back in the day in London, now I get all these right UK notifications. That's how I found out that they were really worried. I was like, holy crap, it's official because this thing's trying to sell me tickets. I typed in Oasis in the Google. The first thing popped up is an interview with Noel. He's like, yeah, we'll be bigger than Taylor Swift. No, no.

>> Darin: Oh, please.

>> Mike: I think they will. I. Dude, they. If you look at the dates of the tours. Huh? Not bigger in terms of total tickets sold, but it is going to be an absolute madhouse slash show getting tickets for this. I'm gonna, You know, we have that little thread, that internal thread that we throw out.

>> Darin: Yep.

>> Mike: I'm gonna tell you guys, the two options I have are New Jersey and Chicago. I don't know which one I'm going to. I think Fancher's already, or planning on going to one of them.

>> Darin: Wait a minute there. They've set us dates.

>> Mike: There's rumors of us dates.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: I heard.

>> Darin: Really heard.

>> Mike: There's speculation of Chicago, New Jersey.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: I think Los Angeles.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Boston.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Places like Chicago is 5 hours. Yeah. New Jersey is 5 hours from Morgantown, and Jim lives in Morgantown, and it's in the weekend.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Chicago's in the middle of the week. I'd have to take a few days off. How do you know that's the planned. That's the rumored dates.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: You gotta. You gotta.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Because they. When they officially announced the UK dates.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: This on sale is two days later. It's like. It's already.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: Yeah. They're. They went on sale either yesterday or today. It's. It's just like you, too. But. But. But let me tell you this, okay? Let me, I'm sorry. I'm steamrolling this a little bit.

>> Darin: Well, that's. I'm used to that.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. I'm. I'm talking live.

>> Mike: When I. When I get notifications from Live nation, you can always tell how much of a show it's going to be by language around it. And this one was. You have to, at least at the UK dates, you have to apply. You have to put your information in to be on a list that will be invited to the ticket on sale. Let me tell you something, okay? Noel Gallagher himself could wake up to. I'm not exaggerating. In the least. He could wake up tomorrow and say, I'm the king of England. And they would say, we're good. I saw Noel Gallagher's high flying birds, right? They opened up for the band name, but I. It's grown on me. Over.

>> Darin: It's like when Sammy was in chicken foot.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Really chicken.

>> Mike: When they were playing, people were singing along, the entire stadium singing loudly along with them. And then you two gets on.

>> Darin: Yep.

>> Mike: Some of the songs were saying. And then when. When you don't look back in anger, you could barely hear the band. The crowd was so loud. They love him.

>> Dave: It's time now for an irritable dead syndrome. Previous story update.

>> Darin: A couple of weeks ago, you and I did an episode where I mentioned that I had done a couple of things, some pranks that had pissed people off.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And you had mentioned a, prank that you did on Lonnie Steven Lonnie Stevens. That pissed somebody off. I get a text from Leslie. Collie hole.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: She loves our podcast, and she was a little miffed at me because, she says, I'm surprised you didn't mention the prank you pulled on me in high school and how pissed I was at you. And I'm like, well, I can talk about that tonight. All right, so in high school, and I've mentioned this before, Leslie hated me. She couldn't stand me in high school.

>> Mike: Why would that be?

>> Darin: I don't know.

>> Mike: It's not like you're in. No.

>> Darin: God, no.

>> Mike: You're not a jerk. Sort of. You're not an absolute head.

>> Darin: I was annoying as hell in high school. I was so annoying. Her maiden name? Collie. And then my last name is Cox. We both have co last names. so when we got our lockers, I was right behind her. I got a locker right next to her. and every morning. Hi, Leslie. How are you? Good morning. Your hair looks nice today. I like that outfit.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Have a great day.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And it's just drove her in, so. But that's all water under the bridge. We're great friends now. I found out that she lived, like, two or three houses down from my girlfriend, Laura.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Did you ever toilet paper houses?

>> Mike: I did once in Cincinnati with Dan.

>> Darin: So me and some friends were out, and we decided we were going to toilet paper. a house.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And so we were thinking, who would we do this without? I know. Yes. So we decided to toilet paper her house.

>> Darin: And, we were toilet paper in the house. We got the trees, we got her car, and we got the front porch. And my buddy, her car door was unlocked. Okay. And he opened up her car door, and her gear shift knob unscrewed right off.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: And he was like, look what I got.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Now, did I say, hey, you should put that back? No.

>> Mike: No.

>> Darin: Did I steal it? No. Did I tell him to put it back again? No. No. So am I as responsible? Yes. You're okay.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah. I'm just as responsible.

>> Mike: Yeah. Accomplice.

>> Darin: I am an accomplice to a crime. That is a crime.

>> Mike: That's crime.

>> Darin: That's thievery.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: That is absolutely a crime.

>> Mike: Some chicanery.

>> Darin: So, Yes. Yeah, we were up to no good.

>> Mike: You were being churlish.

>> Darin: Yeah, I wasn't hungry. What?

>> Mike: What?

>> Darin: Oh, peckish is what the word I'm thinking.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: So Monday morning, we get to school, and another friend of mine, his m mom, was secretary in the front office.

>> Mike: Mm

>> Darin: And she's waiting for us. And she said, boys, Darren, get in here.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: And she gave me that mom disappointed look.

>> Mike: Were you the kind of kid where, if any went down, you're one of the first three people pulled in the principal's office? No. I don't know which one of you.

>> Darin: No, no, no. She was so disappointed in me.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: She was just so disappointed.

>> Mike: Didn't expect it.

>> Darin: No, not for me.

>> Mike: No. And.

>> Darin: And that broke my heart. It really, really did. So we had to go into the principal's office.

>> Mike: Huh?

>> Darin: Leslie knew that it was us.

>> Darin: We had to apologize for doing it. We had to promise we would never do it again. And we had to promise we would never do anything else to her again.

>> Mike: Which was a bit.

>> Darin: Which we did.

>> Mike: Which we do.

>> Darin: Well, we did. We said we were sorry, we returned, that we. My buddy who stole it gave her her gear shift back, and we. And we left her alone.

>> Mike: From that considered telling him not to do it.

>> Darin: I didn't know, m. I didn't know.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: Until after. Hey, look what I got.

>> Mike: Oh, yeah.

>> Darin: And then, I was like, oh, wow.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: And I didn't. Yeah.

>> Mike: She should have just gotten over it. What has this been? Like, 35 years, 40 years ago on.

>> Darin: Her text, she said, lol. I'm surprised you didn't mention Lol. Yeah. So m. And then we talked about. Can you believe that? All these years. And we are good friends.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: We're very good friends. Yeah. And I told her. I said, God, I was in high school. I was so annoying. I have another update. You remember a couple weeks ago, I said that I had been replying to a text. That was a wrong number.

>> Mike: Yes.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: It's one of the best things you've ever done.

>> Darin: Once the person on the other line, the mysterious person, said, I have a question for you. Then eyes like, I'm gonna.

>> Mike: Yeah, I don't get questions.

>> Darin: Yeah. Because I don't. And plus, I also don't know if this person was in high school or a student or what. And so I thought, I'm just gonna stop.

>> Mike: You don't want to end up on a watch list.

>> Darin: I don't. Well, the next day, I'm at work. My, phone rings, and it's this person.

>> Mike: They called you.

>> Darin: Oh, crap. They're calling me. I never thought that this wrong, number would call me. I didn't answer. They called me again. I didn't answer. And then I thought, you're not answering because you don't want them to know who you are. I have voicemail. Hey, this is Darren. I can't answer the phone right now. Well, that plans out the window. Then, I get a text that says, who is this? And I thought, okay, I'm just. I'm gonna cut them clean.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And I said, sorry, I've been texting you, thinking you were somebody else. Embarrassing.

>> Mike: okay.

>> Darin: And then this mystery person said, me and the person I was texting were talking and just realized that it was the wrong number. I'm so sorry. Lol.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: And then this mystery person said, you guys have the same number.

>> Mike: That's interesting.

>> Darin: To which I said, that can't be right.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: To which this mystery person said, oh, never mind. It is different. And I said, I was afraid I got caught up in some marvel multiverse thing, and somebody else was me.

>> Mike: Okay. Okay.

>> Darin: Mystery person said, you're my new best friend. I love that answer. Lmfao m. Oh, they dropped an f bomb on you.

>> Mike: That's good. So you made a buddy.

>> Darin: I did.

>> Mike: Okay.

>> Darin: But I haven't texted this mystery person since.

>> Mike: Yeah, I have an update to one of my stories.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: A few weeks back, I got a parking or not a speeding ticket.

>> Darin: Speeding ticket.

>> Mike: I was going.

>> Darin: Can't drive 55.

>> Mike: Yeah. I was in a 55 miles an hour zone. I was going 9 miles an hour, and I got pulled over.

>> Darin: You told me you were going 69.

>> Mike: 69 miles an hour. The guy told me. The guy, police officer told me that I could pay online. I go to their website, and sure enough, there it says, pay online. You have to enter your identifying information. Fun thing about this ticket that I got, it's nearly unlegible illegible. Fun fact about this ticket, I can barely read a thing on it.

>> Darin: Okay. It's illegible.

>> Mike: It's fun thing about this ticket.

>> Darin: You can barely read it.

>> Mike: Fun thing about this ticket, it's very difficult to read. Can't see.

>> Darin: M.

>> Mike: Fun thing about this ticket, I'm having trouble reading the important information on it that I need.

>> Darin: Okay. Yeah.

>> Mike: On the website, you just have to put your name in. So I put my name in. It doesn't come up. Uh-huh. It says, try using only the first two letters of your last name. Odd. That would tell me this very specific thing. I did that, and then a bunch of people that shared the first two letters of my name came up, but nothing. Me, I went to record search. All my information is in there. Me, how fast I was going, where it was. But on all the fines and waiver information, it says, $0. I thought that means I don't have to pay anything. I called a few days later and said, I'm trying to pay this online. I know I have a ticket to pay. I can't come to court because I live like, two something hours away. I'd like to just take care of this online or on the phone. And she immediately says, you can't pay it on the phone. I said, okay, then I'll need to.

>> Darin: I, love how you're trying to do the right thing and you're trying to give them money.

>> Mike: Yeah. And, and, she says, you'll have to pay it online. I said, well, I explained the problem. And she said, oh, we just didn't enter the information. she does a few keystrokes. Whatever she says, try refreshing it. Now I refresh. The money amount is in the waiver. $160. Not cheap.

>> Darin: No, no.

>> Mike: Then I go back to pay online. It's not showing up. I've, already hung up at this point. I called back the next day and same thing. Give it a day. It needs to update. I did another day, called back. It's still not working. They don't know what to do. So I go to the clerk of courts of this county, and there's an email address of somebody there. So I just take the email. I snapshot. I went through the process and snapshot it. Everything I had made this monstrous email.

>> Darin: Right? You put it in a PDF.

>> Mike: There were, there were five PDF's in this.

>> Darin: Oh, man.

>> Mike: I go through every step sent to him, and I get a response back the next morning. I'm not the clerk of the civil courts. I'm the clerk of another court, but I'll call them and let them know what's going on. So then I called, now, this is the wrong guy. Now this is like, I'm, like two weeks in on this. My court date is on a Tuesday. This. Now it's like Friday. And I'm like, I can't just do I need to take a day's vacation to drive in and do this.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: And they did something else. They said somebody from the other clerk of courts called over here, explain the situation. They figured it out. I was able to get it on there and see that I have to pay this. And then I paid it and I'm good. I think the date has passed.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: We'll see the next time I get pulled over whether there's a warrant out for my arrest. My point in this is that I spent at least a week and a half trying to pay this. Emailing another clerk of courts to call this clerk of courts to get that to pay. It would have been very easy just to log on and say, ah, it says zero. I guess I don't have to pay anything and go on with your life.

>> Darin: Right.

>> Mike: And then the next time I get pulled over, I find out, oh, you don't have a license and you're got a warrant out for you. Right. I'm going to be very careful here.

>> Darin: Okay.

>> Mike: But I'm going to say that if part of your job involves putting warrants out on people or ending their licenses.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: Maybe cross your t's and dot your I's there.

>> Darin: Yeah. And by the way, and make it legible.

>> Mike: Yeah. I went back on the website. It clearly says on the website we do accept payment over phone. So, I mean, of course, what the hell? But anyway, it has, in theory, been taken care of.

>> Darin: Yeah. I mentioned, you know, when we went to California.

>> Mike: California, yeah.

>> Darin: Cali.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: they know how to party. And I had to dispute.

>> Mike: Sorry, it just, that hit.

>> Darin: I had to dispute the charge because when I bought the plane tickets, they ended up not being what I needed and I canceled those.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: They still charged me 300 some odd dollars for picking my seats and something, something else or whatever. So I disputed that. We got a thing in the mail saying that we needed to send a document saying that we canceled with the merchant. We needed to send the merchant seat. We need to rescind the, something else. And the thing was.

>> Mike: Blood sample.

>> Darin: Yeah. Retina scan. I had the email that said, hey, you know, we have canceled that flight. But, you know, I was having online help with flight hub, and they were talking with me in the lower right portion of my computer screen.

>> Mike: Yeah. Yeah.

>> Darin: Right. That's where it was said, you'll still be charged this amount of money. I didn't have that document saying that. All I had was, we've canceled your flight. Yeah, but I didn't have that. And so I called my, bank and spoke with them, and I said, I don't have this thing that you're asking me to send the document for. And the guy says, oh, we've, looked into that, and, your claim has been, has been accepted. Yeah. So you don't need to worry about it.

>> Mike: No. Okay.

>> Darin: Then why didn't anybody send me the thing saying, hey, your claim was accepted.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Hey, you don't need to worry about.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I'm like, you're sure? He goes, yeah, yeah. It's all taken care of. It's been taken off. You don't need to pay. I said, well, cool. Well, thanks. He goes, oh, thank you. Why are you thanking me? And then he goes, bye bye.

>> Mike: So. Really?

>> Darin: Yeah. Bye bye.

>> Dave: This has been m, an irritable dead syndrome. Previous story update.

>> Mike: I had to make a payment to Andrew's car, because he, you know, is not old enough. He'd have a loan in his name. We have the loan for his car. I had to make the payment on his car. Uh-huh it was a few days late because we were out. We were not here. We were not available to do this.

>> Darin: So his first car payment was late.

>> Mike: Second. Okay, that's a big deal. Back in the day, if you had a late car payment, they came and got it. You remember the episode in Breaking Bad where Walter sees the car out front, and he comes out and he thinks it's Jesse, and he's pissed. And he's gonna tell Jesse, what are you doing coming to my house? And it's Tuco. And he's like, get in the car. That's what they do. They come to your house for their money. Right?

>> Darin: They beat you. They and your wife and kids are sitting there screaming and crying while you're getting the pummeled out, right?

>> Mike: They come to your front yard, and they put an effigy of your credit, and they torture credit right in front of you. They just slash it. And effigy, your credit's gone.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: The right word.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: They destroy your credit completely accurate. They call you bad names, they give you a scarlet letter. They run you out of town after they tar and feather you, right? It was a big deal back then.

>> Darin: They put a hex on you.

>> Mike: Yeah. So then when I actually got ahold of the lady today to pay the thing, like three, the bill, four days after it was late, I got a. What's the account name? Gave her the information. How much do you want to pay?

>> Darin: You're talking to.

>> Mike: Yeah, I said, yes. Like, this amount, like 200. It was like, 200 buy. I was like, $200. It's. That's a little bit more than what it is. But I just said, I'll just pay that. She's like, okay, do you want to do routing number with your bank account, or.

>> Darin: Do you need a cup of coffee? Maybe. Maybe a mountain Dew? Excuse me.

>> Mike: Oh, my gosh, this weather. I'm sorry. Do you want to do this routing number?

>> Mike: Or do you want to do a debit card? I was like, I'll just do a dick. Can I do a debit cardinal? Sure. Do I give you my number now? Yeah, whenever you're ready. Give her my number. Okay. Can you spell your last name again? Okay. Is there anything else? Like, can you repeat the account number back to me so that I make.

>> Darin: Sure you didn't pay somebody else's car?

>> Mike: I didn't say that, but I was like, she's like, oh, yeah. One, are you ready? Yes, yes, I'm ready. I'm ready to find. She gives me the whole thing. And I did that. I immediately went to their site, put that number in and saw that, yes, they had taken the payment.

>> Darin: Yeah, put the right thing.

>> Mike: But I'm, These are major things. A ticket you get, repossession of your car, your flight stuff.

>> Darin: Yes.

>> Mike: And, you know, there's just, there's real people in charge of collecting these things and getting these things. And to them, it's just like, okay.

>> Darin: Yeah, I still wish I could just call and talk to a person. I still prefer that.

>> Mike: I always do that.

>> Darin: press two if you would like to make a complaint.

>> Mike: I do prefer the computers if you're literally just making a payment. But, you know what? Who's, who's the la who calls a place to make a payment on a phone? You just do it online now.

>> Darin: Right. You know, or you could just drive to the place.

>> Mike: If I'm calling, I need a person to speak to me because I have something up to the point where it needs personal attention.

>> Darin: It needs un, why I call.

>> Mike: I would pay more. I would pay to have my, to have, like, you know, they have demographics. I would like to have a tag on me that says, hates to talk to people on the phone. I hate to talk to people on the phone. They should put that tag so that if I call you, it's an emergency.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: And I need you to talk to me.

>> Darin: Yeah.

>> Mike: That's what happens when I call you. Or in your case, I just. I made a farted on somebody in the target and I just want to tell you about it. But in general, it's an emergency, you know?

>> Darin: Right. We've ran over time. Before I leave, I wanted to mention my son, Jacob.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Who is studying business.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: At the university, of Cincinnati.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: He is going to use our podcast as a, example of what not to do. No. and he is going to develop a marketing plan.

>> Mike: Oh.

>> Darin: For our podcast.

>> Mike: We need that.

>> Darin: That's going to be his product.

>> Mike: Yeah. Okay.

>> Darin: I was like, cool.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: I mean, you know, granted, he keeps trying to give me suggestions of things we should put open, and I'm like, listen, buddy, you do you, and we'll do us. but I'm anxious to see what he comes up with, with his marketing plan.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: And I was going to ask, if you don't mind.

>> Mike: Oh, great. You're going to have your kid develop a marketing plan for us.

>> Darin: We got nothing else.

>> Mike: We can read a plan. It doesn't mean we have to, you know, it's not like he's going to, like, call me at like, three in the morning. You didn't post what I told you to post.

>> Darin: Why aren't you doing what I said?

>> Mike: Like Gus fring, he's going to send his. Send this dude out to me to bring me into a basement and put on a rain, jacket and slice me. Give me my money, man.

>> Darin: So anyway, I'm hoping that here, within the next couple months, we will develop a marketing plan, and we might make this thing a little bit more successful, because God knows we need some help.

>> Mike: Y'all need to share this thing.

>> Darin: I mean, come on. We've been doing this for over four years. Years, okay. Four years we've been doing this. We've got 200. And tonight makes 221 episodes.

>> Mike: And at least a couple of them are pretty good.

>> Darin: How many times have you people shared this podcast with somebody that, you know, how many? Ask yourself that tonight before you go to bed. Have I shared this podcast with anybody? And if the answer is no, then I hope you're happy with yourself. Yeah, I really do.

>> Mike: Yeah.

>> Darin: Yeah. Sleep well.

>> Mike: Wow, that got dark.

>> Darin: Hey, kids. I was just playing along. I was just kidding. Hey.

>> Mike: All right.

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>> Darin: We hope to see you next week on irritable dad syndrome. Bye.

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>> Mike: I don't get it, Darren.

>> Darin: I don't understand it, either.

>> Mike: I don't understand it.

>> Darin: Yep.

>> Mike: I thought. I thought it was quite comical. Mirthful, even. If you want to try to deal. you. You want to have a boy. Charlie had basketball. There's no reason to leave that sentence in there. What the hell, Mike? Fun thing about this ticket that I got, it's nearly unlegible. Illegible.

>> Darin: It's illegible.

>> Mike: It's illeg. Illegible. Fun thing about this ticket.

>> Darin: You can barely read it.

>> Mike: Fun thing about this ticket. It's very difficult to read.

>> Darin: Bye bye.

>> Mike: Hey, this is Rick from southern culture on the skids, and you are listening to irritable dad syndrome.